Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Tuco

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Should have snatched her phone while she was in the shower / asleep and called the husband and told him to stop taking forehead kisses.
 

Vandyn

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After the coffee shop episode a vast majority of guys would of bailed out at that point. The girl sounds desperate and alone. With as many times as the husband called her, it sounds like one of those relationships where someone is insanely jealous to the point where it turns off the other person. That being said, she's sounds like one of these women that become obsessive (using the guilt trip 'you probably want to run away' line is a classic line). Be glad you'll never see her again.
 

Frenzied Wombat

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The sad part is and we don't know but her husband may be giving everything he has into this marriage 110% and she probably tells him she isn't in the mood or some shit, then goes and fucks total strangers.
I have had that happen to me and it was a shit sandwich. I never blamed the guy she banged though.
I dunno, you have to be one seriously cold hearted bitch to be able to casually engage your husband in trivial marital discussions ( will you be picking up little Johnny from swim class tomorrow?) as another man's load is slowly trickling down the inside of your thigh. And I never got the "blame the other party" part of the cheating equation. Your wife/husband made the marital vows and your wife/husband is the one that is supposedly emotionally invested. THEY are the betrayer, not some dude/chick you don't even know that was just looking to get their rocks off. The 3rd party certainly isn't innocent by any means, but you have nothing invested in them, and chasing them down and kicking their ass won't repair the fact that your spouse is a cheater. I just don't get people that go after/blame the 3rd party rather than their spouse.
 

mkopec

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Well the 3rd party is no saint either. I get what you are saying, but it takes 2 to tango. And if the 3rd party was like " Nope, youre married, go away" It would not happen right? I get that it still does not fix the wife being a cheating whore, but it goes both ways. I would never fuck with a married woman, no matter how hot or how horny (unless I was really drunk or some shit). There is plenty of single chicks out there that need the bone just as much so why fuck with something thats already spoken for? Im not religious or anything, but isnt one of the ten deadly sins being the 3rd party? Dont covet thy neighbors wife or some shit?
 

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Except for a chick, you would need literally every man in a city to reject her for that to work. If onoes turned down this chick, he would have delayed her plan by exactly the 2 seconds it takes for her to turn her head and proposition the guy on the other side of her and he'd be onboard.
 

mkopec

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Sure, but it all starts with you. I still think its a scummy thing to do for both parties involved. Ive been there before, except I knew the dude which even made it worse. They werent exactly married yet but engaged, and she was a class A whore. (Im not the ony one she fucked behind his back, I actually think she had some underlying problems) And I felt like shit after and it was not worth it. So I vowed never to do it again. Its a shitty thing to do ether way. And if she turns around and fucks some other dude instead of you, you can still hang your head high. Like I said, there is plenty of single bitches to bang why scrape the barrel? Are you really that desperate?
 

Onoes

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Yeah, I really didn't get a crazy vibe from her, not like the first girl at all. She seemed really starved for attention/affection. At the dinner last night she talked a little about how she isn't allowed to go out at home, how she doesn't even have a private email address or anything because her husband watches her every move, yet he is blatantly and obviously cheating on her and has been for years. She said a lot, and I pretty much take everything as "I'm hearing on e very biased view of this", but if her story was even 50% accurate, it sounded like she was basically a prisoner. A prisoner by her own choice for sure, she said her husband would never hurt her other than with words, which he did every day, but that she was too old for him (she was 31, and her husband was mid 40's), and hadn't touched her in years, that she hadn't even seen him nude in at least a couple of years. But with all that being said, apparently he is incredibly wealthy, with most of her work being charitable and just something to do. She didn't even need to be at this conference, it was just a kind of get away for her, and she said it had taken months to make happen, and was the first time she had been on her own for anything in 10 years.

Again, all of this is her side of the story, but basically what I got from it was - she married a rich guy 10+ years her senor right out of high school. Things were probably good for a few years and she never worked. She had a kid, and got a little older in her/his eyes, and he stopped being interested. She doesn't want to leave because "money" and he watches her like a hawk because "scandal" or some sense of owning her.

Hard to feel too sorry for her.

Anyways, not sure why I'm kind of defending her, I guess I'm just trying to say, she didn't seem crazy too me, she just seemed complicated, lonely, and sad.

The more I think about it, the more I think thats the whole reason why this entire encounter sits so poorly with me. As much as I was saying "never again" last night, I bet if I met a super upbeat positive girl who was all smiles and laughs and wanted to be all over me for some weekend thing out of state, if she went "Yeah, I'm married, but he doesn't own me and I can do whatever the fuck I want with my body, he knows this, so don't worry about it. I'm an adult." I don't know that I would pass. Maybe thats scumbaggy of me? I don't know. I like sex so much more than anything else in life, it's hard to choose paths that lead away from it when the negatives seem so far away and obscure. It's one of the reasons I never really tried drugs, I know how I am, and I worry that if I started and went "Wow, this is amazing", I wouldn't stop. I'm very bad at talking myself out of things I want.

Anyway. I just made an appointment to do STD testing, even though I was safe here, you guys got me thinking of the last girl, and whether or not I can really trust my ex to tell me if something happened before she left. I have no symptoms or anything, pretty much no concerns even, but better safe than sorry.
 

Tuco

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Except for a chick, you would need literally every man in a city to reject her for that to work. If onoes turned down this chick, he would have delayed her plan by exactly the 2 seconds it takes for her to turn her head and proposition the guy on the other side of her and he'd be onboard.
I get what you're saying, but put me in the column that says that committing an immoral act is immoral regardless of whether someone else would replace you.
 

Tuco

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Anyway. I just made an appointment to do STD testing, even though I was safe here, you guys got me thinking of the last girl, and whether or not I can really trust my ex to tell me if something happened before she left. I have no symptoms or anything, pretty much no concerns even, but better safe than sorry.
Sounds like you should just go ahead and set up bimonthly STD testing appointments.
 

BoldW

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I like sex so much more than anything else in life
Have you tried needlepoint?

I was a bit disappointed after the suspenseful buildup, but still a good story. I give it an A-. I look forward to reading about next weekend's escapades. I am enjoying this path of discovery you are on, Onoes.
 

Frenzied Wombat

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Yeah, I really didn't get a crazy vibe from her, not like the first girl at all. She seemed really starved for attention/affection. At the dinner last night she talked a little about how she isn't allowed to go out at home, how she doesn't even have a private email address or anything because her husband watches her every move, yet he is blatantly and obviously cheating on her and has been for years. She said a lot, and I pretty much take everything as "I'm hearing on e very biased view of this", but if her story was even 50% accurate, it sounded like she was basically a prisoner. A prisoner by her own choice for sure, she said her husband would never hurt her other than with words, which he did every day, but that she was too old for him (she was 31, and her husband was mid 40's), and hadn't touched her in years, that she hadn't even seen him nude in at least a couple of years. But with all that being said, apparently he is incredibly wealthy, with most of her work being charitable and just something to do. She didn't even need to be at this conference, it was just a kind of get away for her, and she said it had taken months to make happen, and was the first time she had been on her own for anything in 10 years.

Again, all of this is her side of the story, but basically what I got from it was - she married a rich guy 10+ years her senor right out of high school. Things were probably good for a few years and she never worked. She had a kid, and got a little older in her/his eyes, and he stopped being interested. She doesn't want to leave because "money" and he watches her like a hawk because "scandal" or some sense of owning her.
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My bet is that in all the annals of history, never has a cheating wife said to her "fling"-- "My husband is an amazing loving guy but I'm just not into him anymore". Vilifying her husband is needed to justify her cheating so she doesn't feel like a total whore. Not saying she was lying in this case, but I'm certainly skeptical of her story. It's like the chick that bangs you on the first date that says "I've never done this before".. Riiiiiggghhhttt.
 

Oldbased

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I guess I should have added it was the 3rd party I found out from. I went apeshit at the time but I was younger and more attached back then. Looking back I hold no ill will due to the fact if he hadn't informed me I might have wasted a long period of my life.
 

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Wearing a diaper so she doesn't have to stop for pee breaks, like that crazy astronaut broad.