NBA 2016-17 Season Thread - Knicks in 6

Gaige said:

Tonight is what I was talking about with Westbrook though, he scores 58 but they lose. That doesn't scream MVP to me really. Spurs game last night though where Kawhi shot the dagger 3 and then had the block on the other end, that shit screams MVP caliber season.

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That's a weak argument, as most one game arguments are. Atlanta Hawks at Chicago Bulls Box Score, April 16, 1987 | Basketball-Reference.com Michael Jordan scores 61 and loses. Notice how shitty that Bulls team was outside of him?

Who's the second best player on the Thunder? Oladipo? Kanter? You can't even play Kanter the full game despite being a great offensive talent because he's utter trash defensively. Andre Roberson is playing 31 minutes a game. While he's solid defensively he's an offensive black hole, the opposite of Kanter. They could get away with it when they had Durant but not now.

I mean, shit, I don't know if Westbrook should even be considered for MVP, but the team around him is not very good. Westbrook and Durant had long elevated the rest of the team.

If LBJ had Pop he would find some way to get him fired because Pop wouldn't put up with his shit.

DickTrickle said:

Who's the second best player on the Thunder? Oladipo? Kanter?

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Stephen Adams easily. The one guy on OKC i'd love to have. Doesn't get as many easy buckets as Kanter but he's just as efficient offensively and pretty good on D. Oladipo is garbage.

Warriors need to figure some shit out. KD going out coinciding with dual slumps from Curry and Thompson is ill timing. Spurs game on Saturday is huge.

Alex said:

Warriors need to figure some shit out. KD going out coinciding with dual slumps from Curry and Thompson is ill timing. Spurs game on Saturday is huge.

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Spurs on quite a roll right now too. Also 50 wins now for the 18th season in a row.

Spurs keep teasing with near-losses and then winning in the last minute. It sucks. I don't know how you go down 28 in the first half at home to the Kings, but to do so and then come back without Kawhi and LA... why can't they just lose?

Saturday is going to go a long way towards determining #1 seed. If the Spurs win they may tie the Dubs in the loss column on that day, but they assure they have the head to head tiebreaker. Spurs are going to be pretty well rested going into that game, Dubs are going to be worn out. Last night's game was the worst POS scheduling of a home game. Coming off a 5-game east coast road trip, they fly in to play at home for one game after which they have to leave right away to play back to back at Minny then SA. Garbage.

With all these injuries and the Celtics looking tough, maybe the NBA might be competitive again.

Alex said:

If LBJ had Pop he would find some way to get him fired because Pop wouldn't put up with his shit.

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Pop loved coaching LeBron on the USA squad and LeBron loved playing for him.

You can find mad posts of mine in every NBA thread about how he could up end the GOAT. Doesn't change the fact that he's a stubborn, arrogant drama queen. I have a ton of respect for LBJ. But he can be a little bitch. There's no denying this.

It's not a stretch to say that a Lebron/Pop partnership would work well. Pop's system (passing, ball movement, team basketball) is a perfect fit for the way Lebron likes to play. He's always been more Magic than Jordan. It's possible he could get bitchy in typical LBJ fashion but I just don't see it if they do the type of winning that Pop's teams have done over the past 15 years.

The LBJ disdain is real. Even I'm not a huge fan him as a person. You can't deny his greatness, though. When he's done playing people will argue against him being the GOAT just because of his attitude and that's dumb.

On a side note I can't even watch the Cavs right now, they're playing terrible.

Blitz said:

Or the fact that MJ was, just simply, a better player.

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Lebron is going to finish in the top 5 for points and assists. MJ isn't even in the top 25 for assists. In fact, Lebron will be the only player EVER in that category. Lebron is just as clutch as Jordan, so that argument is moot. Sure Michael was a better leader on the floor, but I think points are more important

The stats don't lie man.

Do you know who won a championship while staying on the same team his whole career and had no All-Star team mates the year they won it? Oh and he also only had team mates with 6 All-Star appearances combined his whole career.

Also he scored 30k points. #GhostFaceDrillah

Yes. Dirk is a badass. LBJ is leagues better. Not even comparable.