No Man's Sky

Lenas said:

No he hasn't. He said he guesses if a new feature ends up being too massive to give away for free there might be a cost associated. That does not mean every update or content patch will be paid for.

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The guy said there would be no paid DLC and the box price was all you'd ever pay. Now he's saying he was naive and there will be paid DLC. It's pretty much the exact definition of reneged. When the game was announced at $60 there were a bunch of people who defended the price because of those free DLC statements and just as many who bought the game based on them.

The guy is full of shit, the only debate is whether of not it's premeditated fuckery or not. The fact that all of this stuff comes out after the launch rush, instead of before, tells me he knew exactly what he was doing and saying. Of course there are still people who defend Molyneux, so it's not surprising that this guy gets is getting a pass from so many.

I actually enjoy the game, it's a nice, relaxing, time waster, but I wouldn't trust this guy as far as I could throw him.

Meh, if he really just wanted to not go against his word... all he has to do is name the update NMS2 and he is set.

It blows my mind that Murray is still being allowed to mouthpiece for NMS. I get that he's still technically the head of an "indie" studio, but you'd think Sony would have swooped in by now, slapped the muzzle on him and installed PR to control this spin.

Utnayan said:

False advertising is illegal. Except for the gaming industry.

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This is actually true. Even with movies, while they can over hype it, can't recall seeing trailers offer parts of the movie that just aren't there. You buy any other product and you can prove that the advertising is false with no attempt to correct it from the makers, it is fairly easy to get compensation/refunds. Even though Steam lets you refund, it is nearly impossible to know what is lacking from a game compared to the press/developer statements, in two hours.

I'd been looking forward to this game for a long, long time. I'm glad I held off on the preorder, but it's staying in my wishlist for now as I'm hoping it gets fleshed out over time. It seems like yet another game that just released too early.

This game will be free with PSplus in 18-24 months.

I'll wait.

Quaid said:

This game will be free with PSplus in 18-24 months.

I'll wait.

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Been saying that about Knack for like 14 years now

Droigan said:

Even with movies, while they can over hype it, can't recall seeing trailers offer parts of the movie that just aren't there.

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This happens all the fucking time lol

Agreed, just torrent it for free right now!

There's not exactly a great history between this forum and Sony either, so whether the missing and mis-advertised content is Sean's fault (I would say it's like 95% his fault) or Sonys, it should warrant equal criticism. Whether it was one thing or 30 things, it's still false advertising, verbatim promises that are just missing with no head's up, no notification, no anything. The people that actually do more research before buying the game could potentially end up with a false view of the game - that's never how that should work. Again, I'm not saying everyone buying and playing the game and getting enjoyment out of it are troglodytes of the lowest caliber and should be taking out of the gene pool, I'm saying that not holding a person and company responsible is exactly why game developers get away with more bullshit than almost every other industry in the world. I enjoyed EQ back in the day but joined to ranks of people bitching about undelivered things even while logged into and playing the dumb game. They are not mutually exclusive actions or emotions.

re: the game being announced at $60/DLC prices etc., the game was actually originally $30 or $40 briefly (can't remember which) before being bumped up to $60. And then all future updates and content were supposed to be included, and now he says "wellllllllllllllll, maybe there'll be some charged content" which I guess if you read it the same way he talked about multiplayer that means there won't be If there's even a hint of a big paid for expansion or DLC though, all the more reason to wait to buy.

when you watch star trek TNG if you...

wish you could be like data and spend months just wandering around planets cataloging every single thing without the rest of the annoying crew bothering you with shit like "there's no oxygen!" and "i'm so lonely" then buy NMS
wish you could be like riker and bang alien chicks while troi strokes your beard then buy Witcher 3
wish you could be like worf and kill endless aliens with your bath'leth in the holodeck while hiding out from your son WhatsHisName then buy Battlefield 1
wish you could be like picard and make treaties with alien ambassadors while playing the flute for them then buy Civ 6

Quaid said:

This game will be free with PSplus in 18-24 months.

I'll wait.

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I don't regret buying it at $60, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone I know at that price. Based on the Steam stats, you'll probably be finding decent deals on this game relatively quickly. For anyone who isn't absolutely gung ho I'd definitely rent the PS4 version or check out the GoG version first, before spending the money. It literally is a extremely niche indie game being sold and marketed as some sort of AAA blockbuster.

Lenas said:

This happens all the fucking time lol

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Really? Granted I don't watch trailers that often, but there are trailers featuring scenes that are not in the released movie?

Before I hit post, I googled.

Found Footage: 25 Trailers That Tease Missing Scenes

Yes, you are correct. So increase it from gaming to the entertainment industry then. Granted, still think the problem is larger in gaming since misrepresenting game mechanics and visuals have a much larger impact on the product as a whole than a missing scene.