NVidia GeForce RTX 50x0 cards - 70% performance increase, but AI > you

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jayrebb

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Kajiimagi said:
Agree bro , not regretting my 7900XTX red devil one bit!
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If I didn't already have a 4090 I'd be all over a red devil. I miss the aesthetic. The 4090 is like a little bracelet rainbow and I have no control over the RGB on the Strix because I won't use their shitty software.
 
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jayrebb said:
If I didn't already have a 4090 I'd be all over a red devil. I miss the aesthetic. The 4090 is like a little bracelet rainbow and I have no control over the RGB on the Strix because I won't use their shitty software.
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Unplug the rgb lead, but it might be buried under the fan shroud/heatsink on that model. On the Tuf it was on the pcb near the slot and easy to access.
 
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I like those 9700xt numbers. Thankfully I have zero care about RT. I do wish AMD was a bit better with power efficiency.

That's it for RDNA 4 right? Hmm might have to upgrade then, since 7900xtx is too high atm($1200+). My price range is usually in the 500-700 area.
 
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Cinge said:
I like those 9700xt numbers. Thankfully I have zero care about RT. I do wish AMD was a bit better with power efficiency.

That's it for RDNA 4 right? Hmm might have to upgrade then, since 7900xtx is too high atm($1200+). My price range is usually in the 500-700 area.
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Didn’t they say there would be no XTX version? Thought that came up so maybe that’s all for RDNA 4 as you mention.

Guess I’ll camp Newegg and Best Buy tomorrow and if that doesn’t work find a pre built.
 
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Raster is a bit better than I was expecting, 1-3% better than a 7900XT when I was expecting it be a bit below.
Ray Tracing is much improved, but still not good enough on games that are full RT - this worsen the card's usefulness over time (See Indiana Jones/WuKong today)
16GB is enough for games, but means it's a step down from the 20/24GB for home use AI/LLMs/etc.
Power efficiency is flat compared to the 7900XT/XTX and continues to lag behind NV.

The $600 MSRP is being subsidized by AMD via rebates, which may or may not last. Also, numerous partner models are supposed to surge way past that, with some models listing at $750-800+. At that price, the $900+ street price of the 5070TI is probably worth it.

They could have released a 32GB 9070XTX version - even if the raster was less than the 7900XTX, the improved VRAM and RT would have been buy/upgrade for many of us.
 
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Both the 9070 base and 5070 base are bad buys vs the XT and Ti at the current listed MSRPs.

The 9070XT has tradeoffs vs the 5070Ti (still significantly worse RT performance, worse power efficiency), but the 9070XT will still win at the current listed MSRPs for most buyers.

But note that all these comparisons are relative to MSRPs. Change one price relative to the others via tarriffs / non-reference cards / component increases, and all the conclusions go out the window.

I'd still just buy a 5080... if they were available, listed anywhere near the reference price, and wouldn't burn my PC down. This gen sucks. I honestly wonder how much of that suckitude is still delayed effects of covid - less engineers onsite, less debugging, and more historical demand for higher performance phone chips from the mass market stuck at home with nothing to do but fiddle on their phones.

(And the elephant remains in the room - a PS5 Pro is, what, one fourth (or less) the cost of a 9800X3D+5070Ti (or better) system. Yeah, PC performance is better, but is it worth the price differential for your kid's system?)
 
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If the cards exist they win by default. No inventory OOS paper launches vs something you can go and buy isn't a fair fight.
 
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Grez said:
is the 9070 xt going to be AMD's top of the line card this generation? Is there going to be something more powerful?
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As far as what they’ve said, this is it. They’ve previously stated they aren’t competing in the high end this generation. I wish they’d change their mind, but it’s probably too late at this point. I was prepared to buy up to a 5090 at msrp. but because Nvidia has basically shit the bed, I’m just get a 9070xt and check back in a couple of years.
 
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As far as what they’ve said, this is it. They’ve previously stated they are competing in the high end this generation. I wish they’d change their mind, but it’s probably too late at this point. I was prepared to buy up to a 5090 at msrp. but because Nvidia has basically shit the bed, I’m just get a 9070xt and check back in a couple of years.
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in that case, guess im going 9070xt when i decide to yeet this potato.
 
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Next generation should be more interesting; AMD is moving to UDNA, which is a ground-up uarch revision like GCN 1.0 and RDNA1 were (they are splitting the uarch in two - one specifically for datacenter and one for gaymen), and Rubin is an Nvidia "tock," so new uarch like Lovelace rather than just a minor refresh like Blackwell.

Pricing, well...
 
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