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We built Overwatch around the concept of teamwork, and we believe the game is much more fun for everyone in a match when we’re picking heroes that contribute to the overall success of the team. At times, this means we’ll be playing our mains; other times, we should be trying to help the team by choosing heroes that round out the team’s composition. We won’t be actioning you if you only play your main, but we also don’t believe this is the ideal way to play Overwatch—especially in competitive settings.
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Blizzard are idiots. An entire post saying it's ok to one-trick, then the conclusion of the post is that the game is designed around teamwork and picking heroes that contribute to the overall success of the team and that's the most fun way to play.

You can't be ok with one tricking, if you believe most fun way to play is picking heroes that contribute to the overall success of the team. It's a fucking contradiction...and that's what contributes to the toxicity. Even when they say it's ok to one-trick, they end up saying the way the game is designed around teamwork, and flexing.

They are trying not to offend anyone, and end up pleasing no one, and contributing to the toxicity in the game.
 
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i mean it was pretty clear they say one tricking is fine, but if you're the one-tricker that throws because they didn't get their one hero.. that's where the problem is. The last part is a suggestion that you should adapt to what your team needs, not a demand
 
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I understand what they are saying.

It just that they essentially are saying we designed the game to be played a certain way...teamwork, and hero pick that contribute to the success of the team.

Then they go to say it's ok to not play the game that way...as long as you try your best.

It's not logical. At this point they are just trying to be politically correct, and not often anyone...and one-tricking is ok because you're a special snowflake and we can't hurt your feelings.
 
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I stopped playing Overwatch a while back because the cooperation and attitude required to have good games does not correspond to (internet) human nature, and that's not a fixable situation. I'm tired of banging my head against that.
 
ex-genj

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lol @ one tricking seriously, how fucking boring is that anyways? There is no real depth to 4/5 of these characters.
 
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It’s poor design from the ground up. Blizzard says that ideal gameplay is based upon teamwork and fluid hero picks. Those gameplay elements, by design and definition, are antithetical to one-tricking in most situations. Even if you get stuck with a one-trick who focuses on a hero that is less niche, e.g. Reinhardt, the inflexibility or inability for the Rein to switch to another tank if needed can be a huge hinderance.
 
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I took my widow into comp last night and lost, i blame my team though for not pushing when i got them sick nasty hook shot picks. I'm now a one trick widow, the world shall bask in hatred towards me.

Naw, comp is lame though, people do these tryhard strats but don't know how to execute them, it's pretty funny
 
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One tricking is fine within the casual SR governed system. You won't see it in professional play because being skilled at multiple heroes is a requirement at that level.

Blizzard's stance is fine and I'm unsure how anyone could think they're contradicting themselves.

1. One tricks are allowed and not considered throwing or reportable
2. One tricking is not the ideal way for people to play the game

Those statements aren't contradictory - they're simply saying, "You can play suboptimal heroes all the time if you want, but it's probably not the best way to win in various circumstances."
 
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Meta slaves are the bane of every competitive game ever, yet everyone will blame their lack of progress on them because "I'm an esports champion in the making just you see." Class/Hero based team games have done just fine having one tricks in the ranks and while they may seem like gate keepers/trolls it's still part of the game that they paid to play. If anything one tricks force players to adapt or see new angles on gameplay especially when it goes against the meta comfort zone which turns every game into the same picks leading it to become stale as hell.

Same people who are top 500 or in OWL etc etc all played against or with one tricks at some point while playing the meta yet they are there because of their abilities not because they took on the avatar of LoL Gold/Plat/Diamond 2 shit heels that make excuses for their game play. You aren't as high as you want to be on the ladder? Then it's your lack of ability.
 
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ya had a game earlier we had 2/2/2 and other team had 1 healer 5 dps and we were losing bad. it was mainly the widow on their team killing all of us but the mcree and soldier and junkrat were good too. i get meta isnt always the way to go but some of these people you gotta hold their hands so 2/2/2 seems safer. people dont recognize when they need to switch/countered.
 
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I don't care about the meta personally, not at gold rank.

I never ask anyone to change in the spawn room, you can start with any hero you want and I am fine with it. I will suggest trying to get 2 healers and 2 tanks, and then only if I am playing a healer or tank. If I am on a DPS and we have only 1 tank or 1 healer...I either switch, or say nothing, I'm not going to ask another DPS to switch while being on a DPS myself.

I will suggest politely that we need to switch something up if we're doing badly after a while without targeting anyone. If we continue to do badly, and then I might suggest a specific change.

So my issue with 1-trick is not that they play an off-meta hero, it's the refusal to switch under any circumstance. Even when they are doing badly. Fuck I had a Pharah once complaining about being shut down by the McCree, Soldier and D'va on the other team and not being able to do anything...yet stay on Pharah for the entire game.

Honestly at gold rank and lower, usually being on your best hero is better than playing a hero you're not good at.
 
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I had a loss yesterday where I was only tank with DVA, 3 "dps", had gold elims, and was blamed by a "dps" for the loss because I "didn't dive their soldier". :rolleyes:
 
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Im sad i didnt get widows summer skin, all her skins are pretty lame and that saddens me as a newfound widow main
 
Araxen

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Needless said:
Im sad i didnt get widows summer skin, all her skins are pretty lame and that saddens me as a newfound widow main
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Noire, Talon(I wish this one was all black though), and Bikini are her best ones. Her others ones are crapola. Zarya gets screwed on cool skins too. The 80's one is kind of cool though. I've grown to like it.
 
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Orisa + RH is really good. It is really great to spam down shields. If I see someone play Orisa I try to pick RH now.
 
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Ya I dont play rein but I always thought orisa was better, i feel like her shield regens faster than rein so can afford the junkrat spam, has the gravity pull thing which is great, can dps and help kill pharah.. the ult i guess is cool but the shield cooldown seems faster than rein and youre not stuck holding a shield.
 
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Ya I dont play rein but I always thought orisa was better, i feel like her shield regens faster than rein so can afford the junkrat spam, has the gravity pull thing which is great, can dps and help kill pharah.. the ult i guess is cool but the shield cooldown seems faster than rein and youre not stuck holding a shield.
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You can also shoot the shield straight up in the air while one is on the ground. The cool down starts as soon as she fires it in the air and doesn't replace the shield on the ground till the one in the air hits the ground. You may not get the perfect placement for it that way, but it can help against a Junkrat/Roadhog. It is still really though if they have Junkrat and Roadhog and they focus her shield. They make short work of it. Most Junkrats try to shoot over it instead of hit it.
 
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Nice lol. I would play her but I'm getting 30-35 a win on moira, and as he said in the video tanks dont get good win SR at the moment cause they dont do much in terms of gold medals. But orisa is fun to play for sure.
 
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