War with Syria

Tuco · Sep 11, 2013

How can Obama call off a congressional vote? fuck this confuses my internet bet!

This is like when a_skeleton_03 nagged us for a year saying we had too many moderators and we told him to make a poll with how many moderators he wanted. 1 hour later he asked us to close the poll when the votes started showing him up.

Agraza · Sep 11, 2013

Politics is going to be boring without our involvement in Syria. We need to invade something to get our fix. Serbia's been asking for it. Let's invade them. We can occupy Kosovo to protect its independence.

hodj · Sep 11, 2013

Tuco_sl said:
How can Obama call off a congressional vote? fuck this confuses my internet bet!

This is like when a_skeleton_03 nagged us for a year saying we had too many moderators and we told him to make a poll with how many moderators he wanted. 1 hour later he asked us to close the poll when the votes started showing him up.

Tuco · Sep 11, 2013

I'm not big on anniversaries, but is anyone else sick to the idea that we were attacked on Sept 11th primarily by Saudi Arabia citizens who were Al-Qaeda members, and now we're thinking about joining forces with Al-Qaeda in Syria to fight Saudi Arabia's war?

fanaskin · Sep 11, 2013

In my view it's all about maintaining the petro dollar for the next ~50-100 years that serves saudi and the west at the same time.

Agraza · Sep 11, 2013

Perhaps the jews masterminded everything. Al Qaeda is just a Mossad foil.

iannis · Sep 11, 2013

They do look an awful lot alike. If you shaved an arab and put a funny hat on him would white people be able to tell the difference? I think not.

I'm a little fucking fuzzy on this whole "Persian" thing to begin with. Isn't that like calling a mexican a spaniard?

fanaskin · Sep 11, 2013

Persians are a real thing, there was a great Aryan migration at one point in history, a very large migration of whites from around Germany moved through Greece , through Persia, through Afghanistan and settled in India setting themselves as they Kshatriya class and enacted the caste system in India.

it's somewhat disputed but you can't help but notice , Persians, afghan's and even many Indians have distinctively European features.

Burnem Wizfyre · Sep 11, 2013

Iannis_sl said:
His face is saved.

Couldn't listen to the whole thing. I listened to a little bit but... it was just too fucking slimy. Please stop pretending to give a shit about civilian casualties in middle eastern countries, and please stop lecturing me about chemical weapons being the greatest evil ever invented. Please just cut that shit out. And that's what it felt like, a lecture about how we should be dropping bombs but since the nation isn't as brave as Obama is I guess this is ok too.

Threatening to do something crazy and stupid then not doing it doesn't score you points.

If it didn't then NK would be even more fucked than it already is.

wormie · Sep 11, 2013

fanaskin_sl said:
Persians are a real thing, there was a great Aryan migration at one point in history, a very large migration of whites from around Germany moved through Greece , through turkey, through Persia, through Afghanistan and settled in India setting themselves as they Kshatriya class and enacted the caste system in India.

that's why, alot Turks, Persians, afghan's and even many Indians have distinctively European features.

Or the other way around maybe? For fucks sake. The indo europens or aryans, moved the fuck out of the middle east into europe and parts of what is now russia.

khalid · Sep 11, 2013

Bunch of Obama and Kerry clips strung together about this crisis. It is sad and depressing that this is the kind of leadership we had during all this.

hodj · Sep 11, 2013

fanaskin_sl said:
Persians are a real thing, there was a great Aryan migration at one point in history, a very large migration of whites from around Germany moved through Greece , through Persia, through Afghanistan and settled in India setting themselves as they Kshatriya class and enacted the caste system in India.

it's somewhat disputed but you can't help but notice , Persians, afghan's and even many Indians have distinctively European features.

That's actually because of Alexander's armies bro. Rape and pillage and many even stayed behind, especially in Afghanistan and India, to live, once Alexander started marching home.

Araysar · Sep 11, 2013

wormie_sl said:
Or the other way around maybe? For fucks sake. The indo europens or aryans, moved the fuck out of the middle east into europe and parts of what is now russia.

hodj_sl said:
That's actually because of Alexander's armies bro. Rape and pillage and many even stayed behind, especially in Afghanistan and India, to live, once Alexander started marching home.

No, its actually several centuries prior to Alexander. And Wormie is right. It wasnt Europeans migrating to India. It was Middle easterners migrating to Europe and India simultaneously. Fanaskin is terrible at history.

fanaskin · Sep 11, 2013

Yeah I fucked up the origin* it was around the caucuses, hence Caucasian. I wouldn't call them 'middle eastern' that's almost as bad a mistake I made, it wasn't Arabs or Semitic groups which are also 'middle eastern'

Aaron · Sep 11, 2013

Tuco_sl said:
I'm not big on anniversaries, but is anyone else sick to the idea that we were attacked on Sept 11th primarily by Saudi Arabia citizens who were Al-Qaeda members, and now we're thinking about joining forces with Al-Qaeda in Syria to fight Saudi Arabia's war?

This needs to be in the headlines and the #1 story in all the media today. The fact that it isn't just goes to show the level of journalism in the West.

Erronius · Sep 11, 2013

I'm not even sure that I like the way that 9/11 is revered and observed yearly. I like the additional political bullshit associated with it even less.

Urlithani · Sep 11, 2013

Tuco_sl said:
I'm not big on anniversaries, but is anyone else sick to the idea that we were attacked on Sept 11th primarily by Saudi Arabia citizens who were Al-Qaeda members, and now we're thinking about joining forces with Al-Qaeda in Syria to fight Saudi Arabia's war?

What's the difference between 9/11 and a cow? You stop milking the cow after 12 years.

Whatever it takes to get the public behind whatever the US Govt feels like doing.

Edit: And the media. And that guy in your platoon that everyone hated. He's probably out in the food court at a mall in his old fatigues waiting for someone to offer to buy his lunch and loving all the "Thank you for your service!" comments he gets.

What Erronius said. Too much phony shit surrounding 9/11 now.

Phazael · Sep 11, 2013

Persians are what Iranians call themselves after 9-11. Sort of like how Americans pretend to be Canadian when abroad.

Tuco · Sep 11, 2013

Urlithani, are you arguing that the US Govt is using anger toward Al-Qaeda to help build support to helping them in Syria?

fanaskin · Sep 11, 2013

Phazael_sl said:
Persians are what Iranians call themselves after 9-11. Sort of like how Americans pretend to be Canadian when abroad.

Well Iran was known as persia in the west for ~2,600 years until 1935, why did they change their name? short answer: to try and align themselves with hitler

For the last 2600 years, up to the year 1935, following a naming convention that was started by the ancient Greeks, in all Western languages today's Iran was known as "Persia", a word that was different from the word used in Persian, which was always "Iran". There are many other examples of such naming conventions in the world. Indians call their country "Bharat", Egyptians call their land "Missr", in Finland they call their country "Suomi", the Japanese call their country "Nihon", and Germans call their country "Deutschland" (2). By the same token, the language of Persia (Iran) has always been internationally known as Persian.

The naming conventions for Persia (aka Iran) changed in 1935. The suggestion for the name change from Persia to Iran is said to have come from the Persian ambassador to Germany, who was a Nazi sympathizer. In 1935 Germany was ruled by Hitler. Aryanism was equated by the Nazis as the highest level of human civilization, in an article of faith based on a vulgar Hegelian hyperbola. Apparently the Persian ambassador was persuaded by his Nazi friends that Persia would be better off as an ally of Nazi Germany. Moreover, he became convinced that the country should be called by its Persian name, Iran, in Western languages. This was to signal a new beginning and bring home to the world the new era in Iranian history, one that would emphasize the Aryan aspect of its people. The name Iran is a cognate of the old word Aryan. The Persian Ministry of Foreign Affairs sent out a memo to all foreign embassies in Tehran, requesting that the country be called "Iran.

Persia, Iran, and the Persian Gulf: A Brief History of Names

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