Writers Guild Strike 2023

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LiquidDeath

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Everyone keeps talking about residuals like they are a thing that has to exist. Says who?
The idea that you get paid for your work and then paid in perpetuity because you did the work is asinine. I can understand if it is worked into a contract for a super star, but for every single jackoff in the production? Fuck off. This is just another reason why this shit costs so much.

Maybe a character actor doesn't even deserve 70k a year for playing pretend on not that many days each year. The sooner actors are treated like the gigantic morons most of them are again the better.
 
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Chukzombi

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Everyone keeps talking about residuals like they are a thing that has to exist. Says who?
The idea that you get paid for your work and then paid in perpetuity because you did the work is asinine. I can understand if it is worked into a contract for a super star, but for every single jackoff in the production? Fuck off. This is just another reason why this shit costs so much.

Maybe a character actor doesn't even deserve 70k a year for playing pretend on not that many days each year. The sooner actors are treated like the gigantic morons most of them are again the better.
i think a lot of it is due to the high cost of living in the LA/Hollywood area. if rent in a decent place was like 1k a month and you could split the costs with roomates, then sure. but rent is like 5k a month and there are gaps between gigs so what you're pulling isnt making it worth the effort to even bother with acting and so you fuck off and do something else. i'm not siding with these people. just explaining why 70k is just barely getting them by.

-edit. also living in the area is a must because you have to be at a casting call to get the role. they arent picking your name out of a hat just to be a character actor in something. your ass has to be there that morning because they need somebody right away. if you have a long drive in, then you shouldnt even bother.
 
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This residuals talk sounds very similar to pension funds that other private industries have recently and painfully transitioned out of. Being too young to have held a job with a pension(unless government), the wailing and gnashing of teeth at some of my first jobs out of college was astounding and hard to relate to.

I understand why someone would residuals or a pension. But, fuck em, you've been outcompeted and the gravy train is over. Has been over. This is like squabbling over table scraps while demanding a full course meal.

I can't wait to continue not watching the garbage these assholes pump out.
 
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Shmoopy

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Oh no ... the writers of Wheel of Time, The Witcher, and Rings of Power are striking ... how will we ever get well written shows? o_O
 
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moonarchia

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I don't blame the people on the ground making these movies. Most of the people on a set get paid fuck all to be there and fuck all afterward. Remember character actors? People we saw in a lot of moves but never really knew who they were? In the 90's, they could make $500k a year easy which was damn good money, but that money has nearly completely vanished. One well known character actress said her pay went down to low $70k's for work she used to take home half a million on.

ALL the streaming services are trying to fuck everyone on residuals; actors, writers, set people...anyone involved in the production that used to get residuals are getting shanked, and these people aren't paid well to begin with.

To give you an idea how wide the pay gap is, the first Avenger film had ONE guy making bank, the rest got peanuts. $100-$200k and only RDJ got the 10MM+ payola.

Everyone used to make a living at making movies, but all that is going away thanks to streaming...something everyone is losing their asses on.

The fix is easy. Theatrical release, DVD release, then 1-2 years later a limited streaming release. Who will be the first to go back to the way things were?
Those horses are long long gone, fren. Youtube and tiktok will be the entertainment industry going forward.
 
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Bubbles

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I don't give a fuck that the writers are underpaid. Mainly because 8 out of 10 shows greenlit are complete fucking dogshit. Writing is gringe, predictable and caters to the lowest common denominator. Writers are often pushing their own agendas and political views in a way that is so in your face that you rather turn it off. Just look at Mindy Kalin's Velma. Why the fuck should they get paid for producing garbage.
 
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Chukzombi

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apparently that threat was to Bob Iger. it was anounced when Iger came back to take over Disney he would be making 27 million dollars a year. it just so happens he has said negative things about the writer and actors strike and now good ole Ronny was saying he's gonna burn down the house of the person who made that statement about actors/writers will lose their homes. even if Iger didnt make that statement. thats what Ron thinks. when confronted about this. Ron was so badass. he immediately deleted that video, said he was sorry and that he didnt mean it.

 
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apparently that threat was to Bob Iger. it was anounced when Iger came back to take over Disney he would be making 27 million dollars a year. it just so happens he has said negative things about the writer and actors strike and now good ole Ronny was saying he's gonna burn down the house of the person who made that statement about actors/writers will lose their homes. even if Iger didnt make that statement. thats what Ron thinks. when confronted about this. Ron was so badass. he immediately deleted that video, said he was sorry and that he didnt mean it.

LOL. He's going to be on "strike" for the rest of his life.
 
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zzeris

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i think a lot of it is due to the high cost of living in the LA/Hollywood area. if rent in a decent place was like 1k a month and you could split the costs with roomates, then sure. but rent is like 5k a month and there are gaps between gigs so what you're pulling isnt making it worth the effort to even bother with acting and so you fuck off and do something else. i'm not siding with these people. just explaining why 70k is just barely getting them by.

-edit. also living in the area is a must because you have to be at a casting call to get the role. they arent picking your name out of a hat just to be a character actor in something. your ass has to be there that morning because they need somebody right away. if you have a long drive in, then you shouldnt even bother.

If it wasn't worth the effort to act, they wouldn't be doing it. Most of these extras, and that is what they are, have how many scenes where they participate? Half a dozen? How many speaking lines? 2-3? 4-6? What are they doing the rest of the time? Nothing. You're not making 70k while being an integral part of a movie. Not after the first couple times. You are trying to equate someone making 70k a year being part of the scenery as something terrible. It isn't. Fuck them all. The writers, actors, extras, everyone in the business. I hope streaming and the strike destroys this business.
 
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Chukzombi

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If it wasn't worth the effort to act, they wouldn't be doing it. Most of these extras, and that is what they are, have how many scenes where they participate? Half a dozen? How many speaking lines? 2-3? 4-6? What are they doing the rest of the time? Nothing. You're not making 70k while being an integral part of a movie. Not after the first couple times. You are trying to equate someone making 70k a year being part of the scenery as something terrible. It isn't. Fuck them all. The writers, actors, extras, everyone in the business. I hope streaming and the strike destroys this business.
well, no. its not worth the effort. thats why they are striking. because they cant afford to live the hollywood life in hollywood on what they are being paid. they want more money so they can go to the fancy restaurants and live in the fancy neighborhoods and drive the fancy cars and hold their noses up at the plebes who work for a living. thats this strike in a nutshell. all i said is, unless they make the big bucks they cant do that and have to fuck off and do something else. LA/Hollywood is an expensive town. if you want to be an actor you have to be where the action is. these people all cavort in the same town.
 
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Mist

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I think people are looking at this wrong.

There are plenty of jobs for anyone with a 110+ IQ, which I'm sure even most bad Hollywood writers and actors have. The ones who weren't making shit for money can just go do something else. It might not be as fun, but it will almost certainly make more money.

Meanwhile, what are all these talentless TV executives and movie executives going to do? We KNOW they're trash based on the decisions they've been making the past decade. You think KK is going to bang out a dozen shitty Star Wars shows a year just her and ChatGPT?
 
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Goatface

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You think KK is going to bang out a dozen shitty Star Wars shows a year just her and ChatGPT?
she probably has 1000 monkeys currently pounding out a bunch of high republic stories that can be quickly turned into shows.
 

Gravel

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Like I said, you can hate all of them. You don't have to pick sides.

Fuck the execs, fuck the studios, fuck the actors, fuck the writers. They all suck.
 
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Mist

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Stolen from the AI thread. This is what the writer's are worried about:

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