Lithose
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You've been living with this cult being the dominant ideology for years now.
You know why.
There is a huge problem with this one.
He has a penis.
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
You've been living with this cult being the dominant ideology for years now.
You know why.
There is a huge problem with this one.
He has a penis.
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I would argue that this started like 12 years ago with that Wicked play where they made the Wicked Witch of the West nice.
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Mist
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No, I still don't fucking get it dude. It's not ideology, it's just stupidity. No "SJW" is going to side with a rich fashionista who wants to skin puppies, and no retcon of a contrived backstory is going to fix that. It's just stupid, no one is falling for this.
Whomever was in charge of this just didn't think it through. Stop trying to make everything stupid that happens conform to your ideological lens.
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Tmac
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SJW’s don’t side w rich fashionistas who are so unlikable it’s not a stretch to suggest they skin puppies alive?
Don’t make me laugh. Nancy Pelosi? Maxine Waters? Hillary Clinton? Ilhan Omar? Do I need to keep going?
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You can't just lump 5 totally different people together. I'll concede on the Hillary Clinton point, she'd definitely skin puppies to gain 2% share with a demographic, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT LITERALLY NOBODY ON ANY POLITICAL SIDE OF ANY POLITICAL SPECTRUM SUPPORTS PUPPY SKINNING.
There is just no way to make Cruella Deville a sympathetic character, and for that alone she's a good analogue for Hillary Clinton, but the rest of your post is nonsense.
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Tmac
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It’s not supposed to be literal. It’s supposed to point to how unlikable a person is.
Everyone I listed is RICH AF and unlikable. And all of their public support typically clashes w how they live. As in they’re liars.
AOC drives a TESLA and shops at Fresh Market while demonizing capitalism and torpedoing Amazon deals.
Lithose
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I'm sorry you're still in denial on why female villains need their anger explained.
But you are.
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Lithose
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No one said SJWs support puppy skinning. You're creating a straw man that doesn't exist.
SJWs can't see women as inherently evil. Society had to make them evil. Ergo, female villains will be explained to show how they are really victims. The patriarchy is really at fault! Not the woman who was skinning puppies. They did the same thing in Maleficent, where the king mutilated and raped maleficent (The evil patriarch) and made her do the things she did.
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Nothing makes sense, yet it can always be explained through the lens of your ideology vs your projection of someone else you don't like's ideology.
Lithose
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Okay, why are only female villains having these movies--and why despite being consistently bad ideas, do they continue. And why do disney movies constantly have the same themes (Watch Malef to understand this--who ends up saving the princess in the end? Not the Prince.)
I can't wait to hear this. I'm so sorry your denial is so strong; but it is. You're literally agreeing with the original IOOTI meme.
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Mist
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Um, Joker? Hello?
How about all the Hannibal Lecter movies that try to make him more identifiable.
Brightburn was an example of a movie that tried to show how society could turn a young boy Superman-analogue into a villain.
Sorry, it's not just chicks.
And my point is that trying to humanize Cruella is even dumber than trying to humanize Hannibal Lecter, it's literally like trying to make a Buffalo Bill movie. "THE PUPPY PUTS THE LOTION ON ITS SKIN."
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Lithose
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Um, Joker? Hello?
How about all the Hannibal Lecter movies that try to make him more identifiable.
Brightburn was an example of a movie that tried to show how society could turn a young boy Superman-analogue into a villain.
Sorry, it's not just chicks.
And my point is that trying to humanize Cruella is even dumber than trying to humanize Hannibal Lecter, it's literally like trying to make a Buffalo Bill movie. "THE PUPPY PUTS THE LOTION ON ITS SKIN."
Wow, when did they become Disney films? Disney has been buying more properties than I realized! Or did try to expand the topic to make your view work? Disney's focus is very specific, and the themes are very consistent. And they are pretty open about ideological themes being a focus, watch their Frozen commentary.
Its not the same all through the industry (Even if the ideology biases a lot of films)--its just especially bad at Disney at the moment (Hence people like Perlmutter getting forced out). However, in terms of the industry at large? The huge amount of push back against Joker also shows how exceptional it was in that it made him sympathetic, made him the victim. The Hannibal films NEVER did that--he was a villain throughout the whole thing. That's a dumb comparison. The joker is the only one that is even semi-relevant. And as said, the massive push back shows why its not often done on the other end. (But still, not the same as Disney's M.O.)
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Disney fucking sucks and you're not going to get an argument out of me on that one. My point is just that, it's just bad management and bad decision-making over at Disney, not some grand conspiracy of some larger ideological cult.
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